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Sunday, January 31, 2010

Group: Jennifer W., Fledge C., Desirae C., Rhonda L., Cody A., Robert C.

21 comments:

  1. Organic Farming
    http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20100131/LIVING09/100129018

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  3. Dear Group Members,
    My name is Cody Adkins and I am a freshman at Jefferson Community and Technical College. I am undecided on which major that I will go for. This article was about older people at a retirement community talking about what they had to do to survive during the Great Depression which what they did now a days is considering being “green” or environmentally friendly. It said that people should do these things that the older people did back in the Great Depression in order to save the resources for their children and grandchildren or there won’t be any. I think that this is kind of a good idea, because some people will do this but some people won’t make any changes to the way they live their life till it is too late to do anything to change it and make it better. I will probably after reading this article do a few more things to be more environmentally friendly so that my children and grandchildren will have resources to use when they are on this planet.

    Cody A.

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  4. Dear Group members,
    My name is Desirae, I am a freshman here at JCTC with an undecided major. I have my typical academic interests like writing and psychology and such, but I still remain undecided. I found the article we were assigned to read interesting. It was talking about salvaging old clothes and raising our own foods. They way the site portrayed the topic was by using a previous example, The Great Depression . It talked about how during the great depression the people of that time had no other choice than to grow their own food and to recycle clothing and household items. It even used the voices of those who lived through the great depression and experienced firsthand what it was like to have to reuse clothes and bed sheets and to spend all day in the garden. I liked the use of the depression voices, it opened my mind up to look at recycling in a different way. It also posed a question in my mind. Why is now any different than the depression? America is going through a recession and money is hard to come by, why aren’t people doing like in the depression and saving and growing their own gardens?

    Desirae.C

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  5. Hello All!
    My name is Rhonda L. I am an older student majoring in Information Technology.
    The article about Wake Robin residents and the methods they used to survive during the Great Depression are interesting and enlightening. I can appreciate the perspective of older people’s wisdom about how they conserved the items they had and were able to make do in tight circumstances. However, if we are talking about being more environmentally friendly, the new generation of people don’t have the time to grow their own vegetables because they are working outside the home on a full-time basis to be able to provide for their families. More people now don’t have the option of raising animals and/or vegetables to support their families. It is nice to hear what the older generation thinks of what is going on now, but most of the methods they used to support their families are outdated. After reading this article, however, I will look for more methods I can use to become more environmental friendly.
    Talk Later,
    Rhonda L.

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  6. My name is Jennifer W. I am working towards applying to get in the Diagnostic Medical Sonography program. While I was reading about the great depression and the things that they had to do just to make it, I couldn’t imagine most of us today doing those things. I agree with you Rhonda most of us today don’t have the time to do those things. Most of us have a job and kids at home and have no time to grow our own vegetable gardens yet alone get our grocery shopping done. I’m sure some people find the time to grow their own vegetables to save some money, and that’s great. When I read the part about the sheets I was a little surprised and reminded how spoiled most of us are. We don’t think twice about the things that we throw out and I’m sure there are a lot of people that would be happy to have our junk.

    Jennifer W.

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  9. My name is Robert Camp I am a freshman at JCTC as of right now my major is unknown. This article was telling how bad the people struggled during the days of the Great Depression. It talked about all the different things the people had to do to save their money. It also talked about many situations where people who were laid off their jobs went from living in the suburbs to moving to totally different areas like farms and having to change their whole lifestyle. I also was wondering with the many economic problems we have today does anyone think it will get to the point where we will have to do things like the people in the article. Or does anyone think that it is actually happening now. I personally don’t think that it will ever get as bad as the Great Depression again especially after reading this article and seeing all the thing that these people went through.

    Robert C.

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  11. Hello again group, my name is Rhonda L. and I am going to respond to Desirae’s blog pertaining to our Organic Farming topic.

    In Desirae’s blog she posed the question, why is now any different than the Depression for raising our own foods and salvaging old clothes. As was mentioned in several posts, most people in 2010 are working outside the home and feel they don’t have the time needed to grow their own food. In response to the question posed, the environment has endured much more contamination from Depression Era days until current times. There are millions more people, millions more people drive vehicles that put emissions into the air and more people are buying food items that are being improperly disposed of which also causes pollutants to fill the air.

    However, in an article in “The Ecologist” entitled Growing Your Own Food Course, it was outlined how a small class of individuals in London England decided to learn how to grow their own foods. In the article, it was noted that “growing your own food is about helping to rebuild a sustainable food network and wresting control over what we eat from supermarkets and food conglomerates. Yes, it’s time-consuming, but for those of us with busy lives it is a step outside the ‘quick-fix’ mentality that has become so ubiquitous and seductive. Growing your own food is slowly and meaningfully rewarding.” It dawned on me that more people would possibly attempt gardening their own fresh fruits and vegetables if there were more community awareness campaigns about the global effects it would have on the environment and ecology system. As Desirae said, with America going through a recession and money being harder to come by, it would make good sense from a financial standpoint to try gardening, if only for a few fresh vegetables in the summer.

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  12. Hello Group, I would like to respond to Robert Camps question. Does anyone think it will get to the point where we will have to do things like the people in the article?

    Today’s economy is looking bad but when comparing it to the Great depression we still are far from the economical hard ships that they faced. I found a comparison of unemployment from the Great depression up to 25% verses today’s unemployment at 8.5% in 2009 (CNNmoney.com, “Great Depression verses Great Recession”). Most of us know someone that this recession has affected in some way. I think we live in a society that it has very much affected but not in the same way as they were affected then. Most of the things we have today that we think our necessities are more likely a commodity. So maybe the affect on today’s society will be that many will lose those things that they thought were necessities but they will learn that they can live the same without them and be just as well.


    Jennifer W.

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  14. Hello Group mates,
    It’s Desirae again, hope all has been well during this icky winter weather.
    Today I would like to respond to Jennifer’s comment on the topic of organic farming.
    The comment where she said she was in agreement with another group mate Rhonda, about how many families of this generation can’t be totally green with their households because they don’t have time. I am in one way in agreement with this comment. I understand that many families these days function on the income and their lives are full of schedules and things to do, places to go, but I don’t think that all that is such a high priority. Many families schedules consist of going to work, school, maybe church and extracurricular activities. I think that families can find time to save and cut back, to try and help the world go green. Even if it is only saving aluminum soda cans or plastic water bottles or the news paper. It isn’t such a time consuming activity like many people try to make it. It bothers me when people say they don’t have time to save cans or recycle papers. To me it seems as if they are saying they don’t have time to plan for their children’s future or their grandchildren’s and even their future. When growing up my family wasn’t the biggest savers but we did save cans and recycle papers and found ways to be energy sufficient, we made time for it cause it’s something we could do to help. Once you start doing something like saving a soda can after your done drinking it, saving it becomes a part of your daily routine. In a TIMES article one title says, When the Super-Rich Go Green, They Do It Big
    (Read more: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1884297,00.html#ixzz0fpCDKPs2)
    The article talks about how when rich people decide to go green they really use a lot of money and resources. This does not mean that you have to “Super Rich” to be able to save. It only takes a little bit of time. So when I hear someone say they don’t have time to save a coke can or recycle paper, I say prove it.

    Desirae C.

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  15. My name is Cody and today I am going to respond to Rhonda’s blog post. About how we don’t have time to do the things they did back then.

    Well what I have to say to that is that I think that we do have time to grow our own gardens. If you work full-time you only work from about 8 to 5 or so. What about the hours before or the hours after work. And it’s not like you will ever need to water it with how much rain we get here in Kentucky at the Ohio Valley. My family has a little garden that grows back behind our garage and my dad works from 6 to 4 and my mom works 8 to 6 and I work third shift but we still find plenty of time to take care of the garden and get every vegetable picked and save us some money. If you ever think that you don’t have the time to do something take control and make yourself time in order to be able to do it. That is what we do.In a TIMES article one title says, When the Super-Rich Go Green, They Do It Big
    (Read more: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1884297,00.html#ixzz0fpCDKPs2)
    This talks about how rich people are using up all of the resources and more then their fair share of them. But a suprising number of them are taking time out of their busy lifestyles to save money and try to save the world as we know it so if the can do it so can you. and as Desirae said prove to me that you can't.

    Cody A.

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  16. Salutations Group.
    My Name is Danny and today I would like to respond to Desirae's blog on on families being totally green.
    Today when I came home from class. I stopped to get my mail out of the mailbox. If they (BIG BUSINESS) would cut down on all the unnessary junk mail that we receive would (I am sure) cut down on at least 70% of all the paper useage.
    Companies like Insight. They send me atleast two to three coupons per week. This goes on even after I have up graded my Insight services. Even packaging on store bought goods. To me at times seems to be overly packaged. I understand the logistics of delivering your product to market but, Come on.
    I,ve notice the amount of garbage I produce in a week. It's unbeleaveable. I think industries should find a better method of packaging, and promoting there product without all this waste.
    I sorry, but I think that there are solutions out that are much easier, more realistic and manageable then the way it's done currently. I'm sure we can develope a better bio-degradable materials and fuel derivetives, etc... then what's out on the market now.
    I don't know but it seems like the Government and Big Bussiness Do Really Kind. It's the all mighty Dollar.

    Danny C.

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  17. Dear Group Members,
    This time I will be commenting on everything that we have discussed so far during the entire time of this blog.
    In Rhonda’s post that I commented on earlier how she said we don’t have time, but in my post I showed how if you make the time which is easy to do you don’t have to worry about it. Also in Danny’s post about how the big businesses keep sending him junk mail. Well Danny when you get that junk mail recycle it, put it in a recycling been for paper and stop worrying about it and there is also a way that you can keep junk mail from coming to your house if you wanted too.
    Our topic was about how people back during the dpression did things to be “green” cause the had to to survive and now that if we don’t start doing it again we may have to do it to survive again. Like I mentioned in my earlier post about how you can make a garden in your back yard just got look at this picture at this link (http://www.landscaping-ideas-for-gardening.com/images/backyard-vegetable-garden.jpg) to see a picture of a small garden in someones back yard.
    My final point over this whole topic is that if you want to save the world and keep the world green then recycle and save things that you would normally throw out and have a small garden and you can be a small step in doing this.

    Cody A.

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  18. Hello group mates,
    I will be commenting on the previous comment made by Danny C. about junk mail. I will also be commenting about previous comments made over our topic.
    Danny C. mentioned that he checks his mail daily and everyday he has handfuls of junk mail. He said that he was sure that the business industry could save thousands if they would just stop sending out junk mail. I agree with that, the business industry could save thousands, but you as the citizen receiving the junk mail, could recycle that. Like I have said before in my blogs, everyone has time to recycle and save; it’s just a matter of taking the time and wanting to do it. Some people have put signs on their mail boxes tell the mail runner that they don’t want to receive junk mail. Sometimes this works other times it doesn’t. It’s kind of like the “NO Call list”, the list that is sent out with citizens names to telemarketers telling them who is to be called and who isn’t. If your name is on the list you don’t get called by the telemarketers. Well that’s what is supposed to happen. It usually doesn’t. The whole thing with junk mail can be handled and it doesn’t have to be the businesses not sending it out, it is the citizen that receives it. Simply recycle it.
    Our topic started out with organic farming and the discussion of life during the depression, now it has jumped to now in the present time. I personally think it is one in the same. During the depression the people had no other choice than to recycle and save, they couldn’t use the excuse that many are using today, “they don’t have time.” I have sated before that you don’t have to be rich to recycle and save and it doesn’t take up every second of everyday, its not a very time consuming process.
    My overall view of this whole topic is that if you want to save and recycle to try and preserve the earth and environment, you will make time and do it. You won’t make excuses as to why you don’t have time, you will just do it.
    http://michellearc.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/nike-just-do-it2.jpg
    I think this picture portrays my view on recycling and saving. If you want to save you will Just Do it.
    Desirae C.

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  19. Hello group members, I am going to comment today regarding all of our blog discussions on recycling. Rhonda and I agree that in this day and age most people don’t have the time to grow their own vegetables. Then most of the discussions began to focus on recycling junk mail. I believe we all should make the time to do some kind of recycling if it was readily available to us. I thought I would look into business recycling for my work place. We do not currently have any recycling program into place. So I looked it up on the web and found that recycling is available free to those in the down town Louisville area, for residential and businesses, I found this information on http://www.louisvilleky.gov/SolidWaste/recycling/Curbside+Recycling.htm . I also called to confirm if you are not in the downtown area free recycling is not available to you from the Louisville KY. Government.So this brings us back to time and cost. Now let’s go to Desirae’s comment: “It only takes a little bit of time. So when I hear someone say they don’t have time to save a coke can or recycle paper, I say prove it”. In today’s economy people are not looking to add another bill to the pile. I would love to help the environment by recycling but I don’t think I am going to spend extra money for recycling pick up or take the time to drop it off at a recycling center, which takes time and gas money. My question to you group members, do you know of any other recycling pick ups that are free to those outside of the urban area in Louisville? And do you personally recycle, if so are you paying a fee for recycling pick up or are you spending the time taking you’re recycling to a drop off?

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  20. Hello again group members, this is Rhonda. In this blog I will be responding to Cody12009’s last blog in where he commented that everyone should have time to grow a garden working normal hours. I probably should apologize for working a full-time job, a part-time job and enrolling in school part-time, but I’m not going to do that, these are my choices . I do pay for normal trash pick-up and extra for recycling in my neighborhood. I try to recycle most products, and I agree that it is not hard to separate your trash from recyclables if you take the time to do it. For this project, however, because I don’t have time to garden personally, I ventured out and visited Rainbow Blossom to check out what they had to offer as far as organic foods -- I was quite impressed. Check out their website here, http://www.rainbowblossom.com/shop/department.asp?storeID=GGCX1S3WN1SR2ND800AKHLBD3UWE9VB4. , This link takes you straight to their product listings for people like me who want to have organic fruits and vegetables but time doesn’t allow for gardening and they offer a wide variety of products.

    To talk about our original dialogue that pertained to how much things have changed now versus in the days of the Great Depression, let’s just say the country has evolved much more. People do what they have to do to survive, it’s human nature. I don’t think it’s really fair to compare how people of the Great Depression lived to how we currently live -- times are far too different for that comparison, seriously. Look around, there are more people working outside the home than ever before, there are more industries and companies that manufacture and offer goods and services for everything you can imagine, and even with the economic downturn, shopping still continues.

    Overall, I have learned a great deal from the open discussion we’ve had, and I will be more conscientious about preserving the earth and helping clean the environment as best I can. I’m all for “Go Green” and hope more people take the time to research the topic to see how easy it really is to be more “environmentally friendly.”

    Peace to all,

    Rhonda

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  21. Hello Group members I wanted to adress the many tactics that the citizens durubg the time were using.I also wanted to adress the question i had posted about our situation compared to the situation of the people in the Great Depression. And as Jennifer said what were goin throuogh now is actually a Great Reccesion not a Great Depression and I think we should stop stressing because I dnt believe it will ever get that bad. Although times are getting very hard i have heard many stories and read more articles about the survival efforts the people during the Great Depresson were using. (http://www.allabouthistory.org/life-during-the-great-depression.htm) OUr lives will never get as miserable as the poeple during these times. At least i dont think so.

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